Curse

calithratheheala · Sep 21, 2005, 03:49 AM // 03:49

I think the new IWAY build is pure crap and unblances the game. I was just wondering if anybody knows if GW or Anet has any plans to nerf IWAY avenge you and when it will happen.

Lord Bentam · Sep 21, 2005, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Just use one of the endless counters. Any decent team can smother IWAY.

calithratheheala · Sep 21, 2005, 03:51 AM // 03:51

True. I just am tired of not being prepared (although by now i probably should be) for a group of warriors to come and slaughter me

Sentao Nugra · Sep 21, 2005, 04:02 AM // 04:02

wow, already another nerf iway thread when there are so many visible counters

Ristaron · Sep 21, 2005, 04:19 AM // 04:19

IWAY should be nerfed just as much as a domination mesmer. Give me a break. Both have their weaknesses, though you may think they own (and believe me, I don't think IWAY owns) they really have easy weaknesses.

And don't "prepare" for a certain contingency, prepare for your team's strat. If your team does a good job you should have no problem. Ch**t, it's a team game...

Dead Panda · Sep 21, 2005, 04:20 AM // 04:20

I prefere to think of IWAYS as Unworthy's with brains.

From what I heard, few iway teams acually reach HoH...

KuTeBaka · Sep 21, 2005, 04:22 AM // 04:22

and the ones that do cant do anything.

OverlordTyrael · Sep 21, 2005, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by calithratheheala

I think the new IWAY build is pure crap and unblances the game. I was just wondering if anybody knows if GW or Anet has any plans to nerf IWAY avenge you and when it will happen.

Youre right about one thing in that first sentence

. Thread should be closed. We don't need useless spam threads in our forums.

Navaros · Sep 21, 2005, 04:32 AM // 04:32

IWAY needs no nerfing at all

IWAY is not hard to beat

those who's teams have problems with IWAY, are the same players who would have trouble beating any decent team using any other build. they think a nerfing of IWAY would help them, but it wouldn't really.

ManadartheHealer · Sep 21, 2005, 04:50 AM // 04:50

-No matter what the build, ball up vs. IWAY
-Take out the necro (order necro first, then tainted)
-use AOE Damage spells, smite, etc.
-Aegis and Ward vs. Melee are your friends
-Strip enchants, put on the degen, and then get in a healing ball

Anyone who says IWAY needs to be nerfed....grrrrrr

KuTeBaka · Sep 21, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52

Ways to beat it:
-Aegis
-Guardian (annoying as hell)
-ward against foes / melee
-Greater conflagration (cancels out winnowing, orders and MAYBE predatory season)
-Kill necro, not pets
-Aoes

One of the tactics that people seem to use that doesnt work is balling up. You just have to run in, whack once and run away. Your pet will kill itself, although this tactic was killing my pug today, I was in the back shouting "GET BACKK!!!" and they all died except for the order spamming necro and me.

edit: dam too slow.

skeeo · Sep 21, 2005, 05:30 AM // 05:30

rofl nerf iway? its the worst noob build ever thought of. Any decent team will roll a IWAY build in about 1 min. I hate it when people call for the nerf bat on any build that seems to be popular.

Darkside Revenge · Sep 21, 2005, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by skeeo

I hate it when people call for the nerf bat on any build that seems to be popular.

Agreed. But nevertheless...how bad are the noobs that can't beat down a iway team...iway isn't a pwn all the way build...just fame/faction farming. I run an iway necro....made it pretty far most of the time...faction really starts adding up. But IWAY is so easy to beat. Just takes a little bit of intelligence...I just like to say that everyone who hates IWAY's....they're the people that get beat down and can't figure out how to stop it. So they cry "noob build", "nerf it"....instead of just countering it until IWAY isn't popular anymore....

One and Two · Sep 21, 2005, 05:51 AM // 05:51

IWAY is only a counter to noob smiters. And now noobs run IWAY. WTH did you need again?

Axle_Fieshe · Sep 21, 2005, 06:32 AM // 06:32

Whenever something is hard people say Nerf it. I've been many IWAY builds, it isn't very hard.

Mumblyfish · Sep 21, 2005, 06:36 AM // 06:36

IWAY is free Faction for any half-decent team. Stop crying.

Infecta · Sep 21, 2005, 07:12 AM // 07:12

I think they should nerf all the skills that anyone uses to win any fights, that way the game will be more balanced.

Sagius Truthbarron · Sep 21, 2005, 07:31 AM // 07:31

Join a team that knows how to play

IWAY is the easiest to counter Flavours ever made.

Rey Lentless · Sep 21, 2005, 08:04 AM // 08:04

IWAY probably shouldn't interact with pets, but it's certainly not game breaking.

There are decent iway builds out there, but they are few and far between.. and a lot of the newer players have adopted iway as their own.

There's a few things that can help you: Healing seeds, anti-melee skills, some sort of ranged interuption, some sort of corpse removal.. or adequate interuption to deny use of them, and some form of aoe.

You should notice by reading that list, that almost all builds have these anyway.. so really iway shouldn't be an issue for you. Without even thinking about it, any decent build will already have most to all of those things inherently.

Ball up, use aoe, interupt any aoe they have and profanes, use shadow of fear/aegis/traps/throw dirt, and try to use or deny corpses so you aren't suffered/putrid'd continually. The iway teams generally have very poor aoe if any, don't have martyr, and certainly don't have mass hex removal. Because they try to overload you w/ the warrs, they are weak in those several areas. By balling up, you're increasing your damage, making your seeds/wards/hexes more effective, and you're negating their regen.

The only decent iway builds are the ones that can force you out of that ball, but that's uncommon and still difficult for them to do.

If you find yourself losing to iway more than rarely, tweak your build to more strongly counter it.

Maagus · Sep 21, 2005, 10:52 AM // 10:52

I personally play IWAY for fun. But what surprised me yesterday, one of the iway teams has been repeatedly called noobs by some high ranked group (mB I think) only because that iway defeated them.
When our guild plays various builds we are able to defeat iway. It is so easily counterable. Simple healing ball and/or wards, killing or shutdown of necro and that´s it.